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Adding a Gargoyles Page

I think that there should be a Gargoyles page. As in a page describing the show in general, for people with less knowledge of the series. I'd create it, but I wouldn't know how or what to do.  :) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:SamuelB (talk).

It's an interesting point. A good starting point for ideas would be the Wikipedia page for the series, but I don't know how to incorporate the information into GargWiki. What would you call the page (since Gargoyles already refers to the species)? -- Supermorff 07:46, 21 March 2007 (CDT)

I have a couple ideas. We could redirect the current "Gargoyles" link to "Gargoyles (species)" and create "Gargoyles (tv series)" and "Gargoyles (SLG)" or just not redirect the current "Gargoyles" page, which is simpler now that I think about it. Or we could do a " "Gargoyles" " page, like how there is a page called " "Eggs" ." I think those are some feasible ideas. -- SamuelB

I suggest going with Gargoyles (TV series), and leaving the species page where it is for now. -- Supermorff 09:05, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

I'd like to see the GargWiki expand not only to have pages for the series itself and the SLG comic and the Marvel comic, but eventually even into various merchandise like the toys, books, etc. Ultimately I think this site should represent all things gargoyles. I mean, imagine a "Kenner Action Figure" Page that linked to the various figures and stuff. -- Matt

Do you have information about toys and books and things? -- Supermorff 09:05, 12 May 2007 (CDT)

Color scheme of default skin

Hey, glad someone finally set one of these up. Minor quibble about the colors in the default skin......while I like the concept we're going for here, I believe some of the colors are too saturated to be easily-readable as backgrounds. I would suggest going with desaturated versions of the colors, as are used at Ask Greg. Skeejay 10:50, 31 March 2007 (CDT)

I'm not sure what saturated and desaturated are. I will say that I really like the dark color background here and at Ask Greg, it is much easier on the eyes than a light color. Vaevictis Asmadi 13:12, 5 May 2007 (CDT)

Comic Info on Front Page

OK, I know most of you are also on the Station 8 Comment Room and probably saw either the Ask Greg or the responses to it or both. But in case anyone didn't, Greg Weisman mentioned in a recent "Ask Greg" response that the sales of the "Gargoyles" comic have been dropping with each issue and that if the trend continues, SLG will have no choice but to pass on renewing the license. Though the comic may well be SLG's best selling current title, but Disney's licensing fees take a big cut out of the profits. We should still get up through issue #12 of the regular series and issue #6 of "Bad Guys", but after that, the future is uncertain. My suggestion for a very simple thing we could do to help is for every 'Gargoyles" site to at least put some kind of link on the front page for people to buy the comic or the "Clan Building" trade paperback, possibly with a short explanation of how the comic's future is in doubt. I know this is a collaborative site and other people need to agree for this to happen, but I think it's a good idea and very simple way to help. There's a no reason anyone should come to a "Gargoyles" fansite of any kind and not know where they can get the comic. Thoughts? -- Demonskrye 12:09, 17 January 2008 (CST)

Maybe instead of the featured article section we should just have a "Now Available" section showing the one or two most recent releases with links to both the GargWiki pages and a link on how to buy it. I think keeping the comic going has to be our number one priority from here on out. -- Matt 12:24, 17 January 2008 (CST)

Sounds good to me. How about a "Now Available" and a "Coming Soon", since with the delays, I think one of the problems is that people thought there weren't going to be any more issues. Do we know how to make this happen? -- Demonskrye 16:38, 17 January 2008 (CST)

Sounds like something Supermorff would be good at. You around, buddy? -- Matt 18:12, 17 January 2008 (CST)

Guess not. Maybe we could leave a request on his talk page and do something really simple for now, like a couple of text links to the comic's wiki pages and links to a retailer you can buy them from? -- Demonskrye 06:41, 20 January 2008 (CST)

"I aten't dead." So, anyway, that should be pretty simple to arrange. You want it in a box like the Feature so that we can edit it separately? -- Supermorff 14:00, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Yeah, that sounds great. I'm worried about how you are gonna fit both the Feature and the Comic boxes on the front page. I think if only one will fit, we need to go with the comic for now, as it is a major priority, or if one has to go above the other, the Comic box should be on top. Anyway. I really like the idea of two (or four for the spin-off) boxes featuring a Now Available section and a Coming Soon section, of course with the TPB, it's gonna get crazy. I guess just fit what you can fit. -- Matt 19:05, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Let's keep it simple: just one box for now. And since people who know about the recent releases aren't necessarily going to want to see the box every time they come to the site, I also suggest that the New Issues box (or whatever we call it) should go under the Feature box. But we can decide that when it's actually been made. I suppose I should get on that. -- Supermorff 04:52, 2 February 2008 (CST)

Have a look at GargWiki:New. Any suggestions. How many months ahead and back do we want to go? -- Supermorff 05:04, 2 February 2008 (CST)

That is pretty good. Actually, since it is a good deal shorter than the Featured Article section, perhaps it should go on top so that both can be seen when the Main Page is opened. Also, I think the New Releases/Now Available part is fine (we should keep each of those there until BD2, G8 and TPB2 come out), but I think with the Coming Soon part we should refrain from mentioning an exact month. With all the delays, we can't be sure and if people are curious about when exactly it'll be out they can go to the page in question and it tells them as much info as we have on the matter. Oh, and I think the most recently published and the next to be published is good enough, no need to make another Episode Guide and list everything that has been out for the last two years and everything that will come out a year from now. -- Matt 10:22, 2 February 2008 (CST)

I see your point about putting the New box first, what with its size, but it doesn't look very good on the page. The box is mostly empty space, which isn't so bad when it's further down. If there was a picture I'd be okay with it, but any picture we add is just going to clutter up the information, so I don't think that's any kind of solution.

One other thought I've had: we could put them both in the same box, just with a horizontal line between them. Worth trying?

I'll put it on the Main Page as is for now. I'm putting it second, but anyone's welcome to swap them over if they think that would be better. -- Supermorff 04:37, 3 February 2008 (CST)

I understand why you had to put it that way, I suppose, but I really feel it is wasted there. I came on the site and started doing my thing today without even knowing it was on the Main Page until I read your post here and went back and looked. I really feel that, somehow, we need to make the comic info front and center so to speak. What if we organized the box into more of a banner type box? Could we make the box only two lines long (one for Now Available, one for Coming Soon) and put this long, but short box right at the top of the page? Would that work? Would it look decent? Just an idea. -- Matt 09:47, 3 February 2008 (CST)

I don't think the banner would work, but we could put the two of them side-by-side. Probably the would only work if it stretched over the whole screen. Have a look at User:Supermorff/Main, where I've made the width of both boxes dependent on the width of the screen. It's not a perfect solution, but it does make the second box more obvious. What do you think? -- Supermorff 11:40, 3 February 2008 (CST)

I like the side-by-side idea a lot, but on my screen at least, it looks strange. The word "The" from the introductory paragraph is hanging out all by itself between the two boxes and looks bizzare. Is there some code you can use to seperate the boxes from the intro? And/or could you make the boxes the exact smae height? They'd look more organized that way, and I suppose then we could also advertise some of the other recent comics and the DVDs in that space. -- Matt 09:04, 4 February 2008 (CST)

I was trying to separate the boxes form the intro. I actually thought I'd succeeded, cos it doesn't do that on my screen any more, but I guess not. Darn. I don't know about making them the same height. It's possible, and theoretically I know how to do it, but this requires stipulating how tall both should be. But if we're resizing them depending on how wide the screen is, then that could cause some big complications.

Here's an idea: we could put the intro text into the left box. How's about it? -- Supermorff 10:15, 4 February 2008 (CST)

The intro in the left box? How would that work? I guess give it a try on User:Supermorff/Main and we'll see how it turns out. I'm not sure what you mean, but if you think it is worth a try, lets check it out. -- Matt 17:22, 4 February 2008 (CST)

Have a look now. I've made it so that the Feature box is no longer screen-size-dependent, but I'm thinking that maybe it should be that too. -- Supermorff 03:07, 5 February 2008 (CST)

If it was screen-size dependent, wouldn't it be all screwy on some people's screens?

Anyway, it is defintly a big improvement. It seems a little weird having two things in the same box that don't really go together, but I could live with it. I dunno. I still think there is a better solution. What about having three boxes? Just another thought. -- Matt 07:56, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Oh yeah. Duh. Give me a minute and I'll give it a try. -- Supermorff 10:00, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Good thinking. That's all done. -- Supermorff 10:04, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Yeah, thats really good, I think. Maybe the Intro should go above the comic info though. I dunno, I could go either way on that. I think we are in good shape though. Great work! -- Matt 10:08, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Better or worse? Anyway, at this point I'm gonna stop tweaking and let some other people have a look and make suggestions. -- Supermorff 10:20, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Actually, I think you've got it PERFECT at this point. I like it a lot. But yeah, thats my opinion. If we don't hear any nays in the next day or two, I'd say go ahead and instate it. Again, great work. Looks cool. -- Matt 17:53, 5 February 2008 (CST)

Supermorff, I'd say you are probably alright to go with the changes to the main page. There havn't been any complaints. So, lets try it on a trial basis. If people don't like it, we can change it back, but I think it is great. I'll also try to find time to make a new Featured Article, we've had the Eyrie Building for a few months now. -- Matt 09:59, 8 February 2008 (CST)

Cool. -- Supermorff 10:49, 8 February 2008 (CST)

Done. -- Supermorff 11:00, 8 February 2008 (CST)

Other Gargoyles Wiki

So, I was kind of hoping I could get some help editing the "other" Gargoyles wiki. http://gargoyles.wikia.com/wiki/Gargoyles_Wiki There are only about three or four active users, and I feel like if there were more contributors, it could get featured by Wikia, which could hopefully introduce new fans. -- SamuelB 04:24, 18 February 2008 (CST)

Aside from the potential to get featured by Wikia, I'm just not sure I see the need for two "Gargoyles" wikis. Is there anything provided by the other wiki that significantly differentiates it from this one -- Demonskrye 07:53, 18 February 2008 (CST)

There's not really anything different about the two, given that they're both wikis. But, two good wikis have a better chance of attracting more fans. The other wiki has some really nice templates, but those could be easily adapted here. It's mostly just a "the more, the merrier"/better visibility idea. -- SamuelB 21:45, 18 February 2008 (CST)