GargWiki:Community Portal

Welcome to the GargWiki Community Portal! Here we provide a simple introduction to the GargWiki community and a few useful tools to help editors navigate the site.

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Ongoing discussions

GargWiki talk:Community Portal, this page's associated talk page, is for discussions and suggestions relating to the whole of GargWiki. If you would like to get more involved in the running of GargWiki, or if you have an idea to improve the site, you can add it there. Please remember to respect your fellow editors.

As well as this, here is a list of other ongoing discussions elsewhere on the site:

• Talk:Timeline#Propose_Splitting_1996.2C_and_perhaps_other_major_years - Users are debating whether or not the Timeline should be split into multiple pages. This discussion is on hiatus until April 2008.
• Talk:Robyn Canmore - Users are discussing how best to disambiguate the page Hunter
• Talk:Hunter's Moon Part Three - User:M m hawk has asked for comments about inclusion of the missing scene from this episode.
• Talk:Labyrinth Clan - User:Vaevictis Asmadi has put forward the idea of separating gargoyles and gargoyle beasts in other clans, along the lines of the mutates/gargoyles separation in this article.
• Talk:Sleipnir - Users are discussing how to categorize Sleipnir's species
• Talk:Coldtrio - The canonicity of this article needs to be determined.
• Talk:The Mirror - User:Vaevictis Asmadi has asked whether or not to link to the 2006 Radio Play in this article
• Category talk:Hybrids - What is the origin and canonicity of the term "halfling"?
• Talk:Appearences Section - Ongoing discussion relating to the Appearences Section of Canon Character articles. Also deals with citation within History Sections and possible future improvements to these pages.
• Talk:Timeline#Future_vs._Recorded_History - User:Vaevictis Asmadi proposes that we clarify what counts as "present" in preparation for "The Gate".
• Talk:B.J. Ward - Can someone check definitively whether B.J. Ward played Billy's Mom in The Journey (TGC)? Thanks.
• Talk:Series Bible - Discussion concerning the addition of information from the Series Bible and what to do with it, etc.
• GargWiki talk:Feature - Discussion concerning the Featured Article section on the Main Page and suggestions for future such articles.
• Talk:Diane Maza - Was Diane Maza really named after Diane Duane and, if so, can we provide sources for this?
• Talk:Generations (review) - Users are discussing possible formats and rules for both reviews and episode/story summaries.

Tasks

In this section, editors can list GargWiki pages according to the work that needs to be done on them. Editors can request pages anonymously or sign their comments by adding three tildes at the end: ~~~

Editors are also encouraged to give a brief explanation as to why they have listed the page, and ideas for improvement.

Requested pages

Special:Wantedpages contains an automatically-generated list of non-existent pages with the most incoming links, but users can also request pages to be created by listing them here.

• Puck's Flute -- An item page, probably a stub for now, but it did appear in a couple of episodes.
• Gargoyle Way -- We hear this phrase a lot to mean a lot of different things. Maybe someday we can cook up a page talking about the gargoyle code (parenting, banishing, leader/second, all that) Mabe it could help split up the gargoyles page more, as I did when I made clan. -- Matt 16:44, 1 January 2008 (CST)

I would rather have a series of interconnected pages, like Gargoyle, Gargoyle culture (which would link out to, e.g. Clan and Wind Ceremony), Gargoyle biology (which would link out to, e.g. Egg), and maybe even Gargoyle history or similar. We can keep some information (mostly canon) in the main article and then direct people wherever they want to go. Gargoyle Way can redirect to Gargoyle culture. We might even be able to merge some info back into more general articles from clan and egg and whatever else. To keep in line with the archives at Ask Greg, gargoyle culture could also be called gargoyle customs. ... Huh. That seems kinda complicated when I write it all out. -- Supermorff 17:21, 14 January 2008 (CST)

• Hovercraft -- Talk about hovercrafts and airships. Just a thought. -- Matt 11:48, 10 January 2008 (CST)

Specifically Brod's hovercraft from "Golem" and "Turf". -- Supermorff

Yeah, but we also had the Cyberbiotics' airships, the Hunter's airship and sky sleds and maybe others I can't think of. -- Matt 17:59, 14 January 2008 (CST)

We might as well have separate articles for each: Brod's hovercraft, the Hunters' airship, and the sky sleds, etc. -- Supermorff 07:17, 2 June 2008 (CDT)

• Street Thugs -- Since we have pages for most of the other recurring characters, I figured they needed their own page as well. Maybe have a subsection for London Street Thugs. -- Matt 17:15, 23 January 2008 (CST)

They appeared in Awakening... uh... 3, Avalon 1 and Hunter's Moon 1. The voice actors who played them switched roles between their first and second appearances (Keith David went from playing the bald white guy to the black guy in a leather jacket). They acquired a gun before their third appearance. That's all I got on them. -- Supermorff 15:10, 1 February 2008 (CST)

• Construction Worker -- Another recurring character without a page. Where there any others we have not done yet? -- Matt 17:15, 23 January 2008 (CST)

From Vendettas and Hunter's Moon 1. Any other appearances? -- Supermorff 15:10, 1 February 2008 (CST)

• Fairlane -- How about a page for Elisa's car? We see it so much in the the show. It could go in the Vehicles Category PGFish 20:25, 9 April 2008 (CDT)

Since it wasn't identified as a Fairlane, I'd suggest just calling it Elisa's Car or something and mentioning that someone based it off the Fairlane in the Production Background or whatever. Just my two cents. -- Matt 21:22, 7 May 2008 (CDT)

• Executive Assistant -- Owen Burnett, Preston Vogel, Glasses, Shari, Robyn Correy... Not sure if this is a dumb idea or not, but I thought I'd put it out there for discussion. Feel free to totally reject this one. -- Matt
• Freakazoid! - In the style of other non-Gargoyles TV series, such as W.I.T.C.H., with focus on the Gargoyles references. In particular, mention the Lawn Gnomes segment (video) and the gargoyle at the opening of this video. -- Supermorff 15:33, 28 May 2008 (CDT)
• Leica Reel - as in the Bad Guys leica reel. -- Supermorff 13:22, 26 May 2008 (CDT)

I think this should specifically be Bad Guys Leica Reel with Leica Reel redirecting to it. -- Demonskrye 06:15, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

• Redemption (story-arc) and Clan-Building. -- Matt 12:23, 6 July 2008 (CDT)
• Xanatos Tag

You mean the bit at the end of an episode where Xanatos reveals that he was behind everything that happened (assuming that wasn't already obvious) and points out how even though the gargoyles foiled his plan or apparent plan, it's all good because he learned something that will make him more awesome? Does that really need its own entry or can we just cover it in the David Xanatos article? -- Demonskrye 06:15, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

Yeah, one of them things. The problem with putting it in the Xanatos article itself is that Xanatos is an in-universe canon character, whereas the Xanatos tag is an out-of-universe production... thing. Besides, Thailog sometimes has his own "Xanatos tags" as well. -- Supermorff 06:45, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

I think a "Behind the Scenes" section would cover it. And we could put an additional link to Xanatos in Thailog's Behind the Scenes section when talking about his penchant for similar speeches. -- Demonskrye 07:28, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

I don't doubt that a Behind the Scenes section could cover it, but why should it have to? By the way, has everyone seen this? -- Supermorff 12:02, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

• Gargoyles (trading cards) - So according to an advertisement in one of my old comics I just recently happened across, there was a line of Gargoyles trading cards produced by a company called SkyBox. The ad predates the series' premiere, and indeed informs potential viewers that the series will premiere in syndication that coming fall, the card series was set to debut April 1995, the whole page is really quite nostalgic in a way (especially given that I wasn't really aware of the show at the time), and all in all, something tells me we really ought to have a page about this. - Caswin 21:34, 18 July 2008 (CDT)

Oh, yeah, that would be cool. There were two sets of trading cards-I have both. It might be interesting to have a page on the cards-maybe what is written on the cards themselves. Also, what about some of the books? Maybe we could list some stories from old Gargoyles books in the apocrypha section--PGFish 01:59, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

• Ellis Island needs a page--PGFish 12:56, 24 August 2008 (CDT)

I'm probably being dumb, but what happened at Ellis Island (in Gargoyles, I mean). -- Supermorff 15:33, 8 September 2008 (CDT)

Pages in need of expansion

Special:Shortpages contains an automatically-generated list of pages with the least information, but users can also list pages to be expanded here.

• Gargoyles (video game) - per the talk page
• Gargoyles (TV series) - addition of a History section, per Talk:Gargoyles (TV series)
• Gargoyles (SLG comics)
• Humans -- Talent for invention and technology. Make too much noise (and constantly modify their environment) to sense the biorhythms. Probably invented naming. History with a focus on their relations with other races. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 10:07, 24 December 2007 (CST)

Requested images

Here, users can list articles that they believe could be improved by the inclusion of appropriate images.

• Avalon Clan -- Matt has requested a collage of higher quality pics of all members seen in canon.

• Ishimura Clan -- Matt has requested a collage of higher quality pics of all members seen in canon.

• Halloween - Demonskrye would like some pictures of various characters in their Halloween costumes.

From Eye of the Beholder or Gargoyles #4 and #5? Or both? D Taina 17:25, 9 May 2008 (CDT)

I'd personally like both eventually, but no rush. You can also feel free to grab pics of any other characters with interesting Halloween costumes (like Alex, Brendan, Morgan, maybe Thailog?, etc). -- Demonskrye 18:39, 9 May 2008 (CDT)

• Gargoyle - Demonskrye would like a picture or pictures of some real stone gargoyles for the Real-World Background section. We can keep the one of the stone gargoyles from the show, but I don't think the "life-sized" free-standing statues we see frequently in the series are really good representations of what most real-world gargoyles look like. Plus, despite the caption, these particular gargoyle statues do not exist in the real world.

• Tom - Supermorff would like a better picture of old/Guardian armor Tom, with his helmet completely off if possible.

• The Guggenheim Museum - Users would like an external shot of the museum, as seen in "Pendragon".

• I just noticed that there are no pictures of the New Olympians on that page. I thought this might be an excuse to show pics of Taurus, Boreas, Proteus, Talos, Sphinx etc...not all of these naturally, but enough to give people an idea of the diversity of the speices. Griffinwyrm7 03:26, 16 August 2008 (CDT)

• PackMedia Studios and Otoshiana Maru could use a picture--PGFish 22:10, 25 July 2008 (CDT)

I have this pan of PackMedia Studios. I hate the colors, but I could always get new screenshots. [1] DTaina 23:35, 25 July 2008 (CDT)

Thats hilarious. I've been meaning to add your pan of PMS to the page for months now. Do you think you could find something better or do you just want to use that one? I think it is fine. -- Matt 23:42, 25 July 2008 (CDT)

I really hate the brightness setting on those screenshots. And to tell you the truth, I haven't found a better shot of Pack Media Studios. So, give me a few minutes to replace the screenshots and we'll be all set! DTaina 23:57, 25 July 2008 (CDT)

I found this screenshot while looking for the pan. [2] I think it looks great. You guys want to use that one? It's fine by me! DTaina 00:10, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

And here's the pan with the new screenshots. Let me know if you want to use the screenshot or the pan! [3]

I like the screenshot better. -- Matt 07:39, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

Okay, I uploaded the screenshots for PackMedia Studios and Otoshiana Maru. One thing, though. The article says it's "PackMedia Studios," but the screenshots say "Pack Media Studios." Which is it? DTaina 11:10, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

Greg's comments at Ask Greg pretty consistently call it PackMedia, e.g. [4] and [5]. But maybe we have to work out whether the canon screenshot overrule the CIT Ask Greg comments. -- Supermorff 11:44, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

Actually, look again. Not only is there an extra space in the middle, the screenshot does not have an 's' on the end. It's "Pack Media Studio" (singular), suggesting it might just be the Studio where the company Pack Media is based. Just a possibility. -- Supermorff 11:47, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

Maybe that's the name of the building, while the company itself is called PackMedia Studios? Maybe there's more than one studio? DTaina 14:29, 27 July 2008 (CDT)

So... who wants to Ask Greg a question? -- Supermorff 15:56, 27 July 2008 (CDT)

• Prolly seems obvious, but we now need pictures of Benny, Tasha, and Thug in their mutate forms...and Erin. Griffinwyrm7 15:25, 20 August 2008 (CDT)

I wonder if Karine has some really clear artowkr of the characters in their mutated forms, since all four of them spend the entire issue behind bars and aren't always tremendously easy to see. Karine has said that she sent Benny and Erin's mutate designs to the real Benny and Erin for approval, so I'm guessing that some additional drawings of them do exist. -- Demonskrye 08:34, 23 August 2008 (CDT)

• Nice pics, Dtaina, thanks! Found another one for you ;) How bout a pic of the Gen-U-Tech Systems lab/logo?--PGFish 13:04, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

There you go, I uploaded a pic. Do you want a pic of the Gen-U-Tech logo, too? It's a big "G". I actually have it on my site. [6] Want me to get a proper screenshot? DTaina 20:56, 26 July 2008 (CDT)

Yes please. -- Supermorff 15:56, 27 July 2008 (CDT)

The requests keep piling up! I'm so sorry about that. I've just been so busy lately. But I promise I'll try to get to work on all these requests soon! DTaina 14:10, 23 August 2008 (CDT)

Kudos

GargWiki:Special Thanks contains a list of influential people that helped create GargWiki in its current form. Editors can also recognize the efforts of regular users of GargWiki by listing them here:

• Kudos to VA for rewriting the first sentences of tons of articles for better uniformity of format! (Feel free to use this section for kudos to other editors too.) -- Demonskrye 20 September 2007

  Oh, thank you! :) -- Vaevictis Asmadi 13:09, 20 September 2007 (CDT)

• Kudos to User:Supermorff for his hard work creating and implementing the CIT text and banner templates. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 21:22, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

  Thanks very much! -- Supermorff 03:53, 27 September 2007 (CDT)

• A big well done to User:Matt, and also User:Greg Bishansky, for adding Appearances sections to every canon character article. -- Supermorff 14:45, 31 December 2007 (CST)

  Thanks! I can't believe it took less than a day. Thanks everyone who helped put it together, offered suggestions, corrected errors and reminded me of things I'd forgotten. Wait'll you guys hear my next big idea! -- Matt 14:48, 31 December 2007 (CST)

• Massive kudos to D Taina for image contributions past, present, and future. -- Demonskrye 14:25, 15 May 2008 (CDT)

  Thank you!!  :D I try! -- D Taina 00:50, 20 May 2008 (CDT)