GargWiki:Community Portal

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Ongoing discussions

GargWiki talk:Community Portal, this page's associated talk page, is for discussions and suggestions relating to the whole of GargWiki. If you would like to get more involved in the running of GargWiki, or if you have an idea to improve the site, you can add it there. Please remember to respect your fellow editors.

As well as this, here is a list of other ongoing discussions elsewhere on the site:

• Talk:Timeline#Propose_Splitting_1996.2C_and_perhaps_other_major_years - Users are debating whether or not the Timeline should be split into multiple pages. This discussion is on hiatus until April 2008.
• Talk:Hunter's Moon Part Three - User:M m hawk has asked for comments about inclusion of the missing scene from this episode.
• Talk:Labyrinth Clan - User:Vaevictis Asmadi has put forward the idea of separating gargoyles and gargoyle beasts in other clans, along the lines of the mutates/gargoyles separation in this article.
• Talk:Sleipnir - Users are discussing how to categorize Sleipnir's species
• Talk:Coldtrio - The canonicity of this article needs to be determined.
• Talk:The Mirror - User:Vaevictis Asmadi has asked whether or not to link to the 2006 Radio Play in this article
• Category talk:Hybrids - What is the origin and canonicity of the term "halfling"?
• Talk:Appearences Section - Ongoing discussion relating to the Appearences Section of Canon Character articles. Also deals with citation within History Sections and possible future improvements to these pages.
• Talk:Timeline#Future_vs._Recorded_History - User:Vaevictis Asmadi proposes that we clarify what counts as "present" in preparation for "The Gate".
• Talk:Series Bible - Discussion concerning the addition of information from the Series Bible and what to do with it, etc.
• GargWiki talk:Feature - Discussion concerning the Featured Article section on the Main Page and suggestions for future such articles.
• Talk:Diane Maza - Was Diane Maza really named after Diane Duane and, if so, can we provide sources for this?
• Talk:Generations (review) - Users are discussing possible formats and rules for both reviews and episode/story summaries.
• Talk:PackMedia Studios - Users are discussing the various canon and grammar issues dealing with the Studio's name.

Tasks

In this section, editors can list GargWiki pages according to the work that needs to be done on them. Editors can request pages anonymously or sign their comments by adding three tildes at the end: ~~~

Editors are also encouraged to give a brief explanation as to why they have listed the page, and ideas for improvement.

Requested pages

Special:Wantedpages contains an automatically-generated list of non-existent pages with the most incoming links, but users can also request pages to be created by listing them here.

• Dracon Family -- Does anyone else think New York's biggest crime syndicate deserves it's own page and category, or do you guys think the Tony Dracon and Organised crime pages pretty much cover everything relevent? -- Algernon 08:01, 22 October 2009 (CDT)

• Gargoyle Way -- We hear this phrase a lot to mean a lot of different things. Maybe someday we can cook up a page talking about the gargoyle code (parenting, banishing, leader/second, all that) Mabe it could help split up the gargoyles page more, as I did when I made clan. -- Matt 16:44, 1 January 2008 (CST)

I would rather have a series of interconnected pages, like Gargoyle, Gargoyle culture (which would link out to, e.g. Clan and Wind Ceremony), Gargoyle biology (which would link out to, e.g. Egg), and maybe even Gargoyle history or similar. We can keep some information (mostly canon) in the main article and then direct people wherever they want to go. Gargoyle Way can redirect to Gargoyle culture. We might even be able to merge some info back into more general articles from clan and egg and whatever else. To keep in line with the archives at Ask Greg, gargoyle culture could also be called gargoyle customs. ... Huh. That seems kinda complicated when I write it all out. -- Supermorff 17:21, 14 January 2008 (CST)

• Construction Worker -- Another recurring character without a page. Where there any others we have not done yet? -- Matt 17:15, 23 January 2008 (CST)

From Vendettas and Hunter's Moon 1. Any other appearances? -- Supermorff 15:10, 1 February 2008 (CST)

Those are two different construction workers. --GregX 18:47, 9 January 2009 (CST)

Pages for both? Construction Workers A and B? -- Supermorff 04:40, 5 December 2010 (CST)

• Executive Assistant -- Owen Burnett, Preston Vogel, Glasses, Shari, Robyn Correy... Not sure if this is a dumb idea or not, but I thought I'd put it out there for discussion. Feel free to totally reject this one. -- Matt

• Bad Guys leica reel -- Supermorff 04:40, 5 December 2010 (CST)

• Redemption (story-arc) and Clan-Building. -- Matt 12:23, 6 July 2008 (CDT)

With the cancellation of the comic, I'm not sure these pages are necessary any more. Gargoyles (SLG) is now more-or-less synonymous with Clan-Building, and Gargoyles: Bad Guys is pretty much synonymous with Redemption (story-arc). That said, we probably should put some information specific to the story-arcs into these articles. -- Supermorff 12:46, 9 September 2008 (CDT)

• Xanatos Tag

You mean the bit at the end of an episode where Xanatos reveals that he was behind everything that happened (assuming that wasn't already obvious) and points out how even though the gargoyles foiled his plan or apparent plan, it's all good because he learned something that will make him more awesome? Does that really need its own entry or can we just cover it in the David Xanatos article? -- Demonskrye 06:15, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

Yeah, one of them things. The problem with putting it in the Xanatos article itself is that Xanatos is an in-universe canon character, whereas the Xanatos tag is an out-of-universe production... thing. Besides, Thailog sometimes has his own "Xanatos tags" as well. -- Supermorff 06:45, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

I think a "Behind the Scenes" section would cover it. And we could put an additional link to Xanatos in Thailog's Behind the Scenes section when talking about his penchant for similar speeches. -- Demonskrye 07:28, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

I don't doubt that a Behind the Scenes section could cover it, but why should it have to? By the way, has everyone seen this? -- Supermorff 12:02, 10 July 2008 (CDT)

• Gargoyles (trading cards) - So according to an advertisement in one of my old comics I just recently happened across, there was a line of Gargoyles trading cards produced by a company called SkyBox. The ad predates the series' premiere, and indeed informs potential viewers that the series will premiere in syndication that coming fall, the card series was set to debut April 1995, the whole page is really quite nostalgic in a way (especially given that I wasn't really aware of the show at the time), and all in all, something tells me we really ought to have a page about this. - Caswin 21:34, 18 July 2008 (CDT)

Oh, yeah, that would be cool. There were two sets of trading cards-I have both. It might be interesting to have a page on the cards-maybe what is written on the cards themselves. Also, what about some of the books? Maybe we could list some stories from old Gargoyles books in the apocrypha section--PGFish 01:59, 19 July 2008 (CDT)

(Three and a half months later...) Wait, there are books? - Caswin 13:11, 2 November 2008 (CST)

I made this page and added in the info I have of series one. I know nothing of series two so add what you wish. Litwolf

• Space-Spawn War or Galactic War... something to describe the conflict between the Space-Spawn, the N'Kai and the unknown third race.

I think we should consult Greg to find out if he has a name for this war or at least a placeholder name. -- Matt 12:23, 12 October 2008 (CDT)

Good plan. I wonder if the involved races have different names for it? -- Supermorff

• Kenner Toys - A page about all the Gargoyles action figures and their impact on the series including the motorcycle, etc. Or perhaps a broader page called Gargoyles Merchandise? I dunno. -- Matt 11:46, 20 December 2008 (CST)

Or Kenner, including all the Kenner toys, but including brief background on the company and the ways they... uh... influenced the show. -- Supermorff 13:02, 2 January 2009 (CST)

• Yeti - They were mentioned in "Reunion", so we sort of know they exist (and don't have wings). Greg has also confirmed that creatures exist who inspired legends of Sasquatch (here), so maybe we could mention that too. -- Supermorff 21:01, 31 December 2008 (CST)

• Do we need an entry for Brod's favorite restaurant? We have an establishing shot of it and some of the interiors, but we don't even have a name for it, and the place got blown up at the end, so I don't know. What do you guys think? DTaina 20:36, 3 January 2009 (CST)

Not too sure about this. If you've got the pictures handy, then you could put them into Brod's page while we decide (or onto the talk page for Brod, if they'd take up too much room). -- Supermorff 17:11, 9 January 2009 (CST)

• Since we now have articles for two unmade stories ("The Weird Macbeth" and "Hobgoblin of Little Minds"), how about a page for the multi-trickster story (about which we know quite a bit, but not the title). -- Supermorff 04:40, 5 December 2010 (CST)

• Touchstone Live-Action Film - Writers attached to the project, some of the directions they were going in (off the top of my head: Macbeth being ruler of Wyvern, Othello sleeping for a thousand years and dying in modern day to be resurrected as Coldstone in the sequel, Lexington being renamed Alex), etc. -- Supermorff

A handful of references to help with this: [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]. -- Supermorff 10:50, 31 January 2009 (CST)

Also an interview with Michael Reaves: [12] -- Supermorff 13:38, 31 January 2009 (CST)

• I was just thinking. We have aircraft and exo-frame pages. Shouldn't we have one for weapons? DTaina 21:46, 18 January 2009 (CST)

• Xanatos AI - er, don't know what to call it, but that weird pink suited Xanatos designed program from "Legion". Maybe he could share a page with the Xanatos Program?--PGFish 14:14, 8 February 2009 (CST)

He called himself the "Xanatos Program" in Legion... I don't know if that helps. DTaina 14:16, 8 February 2009 (CST)

Yeah, I remember, but he's a different one than in "Future Tense". I was thinking of adding another section to the Xanatos Program page with a picture of him.--PGFish 14:20, 8 February 2009 (CST)

That sounds good. How about you write the entry and I get the pic?  ;) DTaina 14:24, 8 February 2009 (CST)

Heh, okay. You get the easy job ;)--PGFish 14:28, 8 February 2009 (CST)

• Should the rain of flaming arrows get its own article? It's just too cool not to have one. DTaina 13:08, 25 August 2009 (CDT)

I think it should go on the Grimorum page. I've been meaning to do a major overhaul of the Grimorum page for a while now. When I do, I could definitly use the rain of arrows pic. -- Matt 14:21, 25 August 2009 (CDT)

• Could the other Gargoyles Season 1 (VHS) recieve their own page? I wouldn't mind creating the page myself (Synopsis and Amazon link), but I'm not sure if you have to be at a higher editor position to create a page. Also should each VHS tape get it's own page or have a single page with synopsis for each four volumes?

• I feel like TimeDancer should have its own timeline. We have the main timeline that shows all the events in order that they happened by year but I think we should have a page that shows events as they unfolded from Brooklyn's point of view. Like (in the only cannon example we have) going from Manhattan 1997 to Scotland way-back-when (forget the date right now). So yes or no to a TimeDance Timeline? -- Litwolf 22 Sept 2009

Honestly, I don't see the point. To see all the events from Brooklyn's point of view, we already have the Brooklyn page. -- Supermorff 04:40, 5 December 2010 (CST)

• Macbeth and Demona's link. Considering how the nature of the Weird Sisters' spell seems to confuse a lot of people, I think I'd love to have a page all about it. What it is, what it isn't. How fate and destiny play a part. Jurgan wrote a great essay about this subject, and Greg said he was on the right track. So, what would we title such a page? --GregX 14:50, 23 April 2010 (CDT)

• Theseus: Even though he's barely mentioned in canon, I'm still kinda surprised that this page hasn't been created yet. One of Greg Weisman's favorite characters, and there's more than one rambling dedicated to the guy ([13], [14], [15], [16]) . . . plus, he killed Taurus's ancestor, the Minotaur. (Greg W. also has a caveat about introducing Theseus here [17], but I still think a page for him couldn't hurt) ;)

Pages in need of expansion

Special:Shortpages contains an automatically-generated list of pages with the least information, but users can also list pages to be expanded here.

• Gargoyles (TV series) - addition of a History section, per Talk:Gargoyles (TV series)
• Gargoyles (SLG comics)
• Humans -- Talent for invention and technology. Make too much noise (and constantly modify their environment) to sense the biorhythms. Probably invented naming. History with a focus on their relations with other races. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 10:07, 24 December 2007 (CST)
• Glasses - Some explanation of what Glasses did as Dracon's right-hand man. His responsibilities, etc. -- Supermorff

Requested images

Here, users can list articles that they believe could be improved by the inclusion of appropriate images.

• Edward I -- Just noticed there's no pic of old Ed despite appearing in Rock of Ages.

• Ishimura Clan -- Matt has requested a collage of higher quality pics of all members seen in canon.

• New Olympians -- Griffinwyrm7 has requested a collage of the New Olympians.

• Hunters - Headshots of all known Hunters, per Talk:Hunters.

• Columnadium doesn't have a pic.--PGFish 15:03, 8 February 2009 (CST)

Yeah, there's a pan of it but I haven't finished it yet. DTaina 01:44, 10 February 2009 (CST)

• Demona's Clan needs an updated picture (collage?) with new clan members shown in the TimeDancer comic arc. -- Litwolf 25 August 2009

• I was thinking that maybe we could have some pictures of gargoyles under the Spell of Humility article. Specifically Thailog and Yama, in "Reunion" and "Losers", when the humility spell didn't affect their clothes. And maybe also a picture of Goliath's pouch from "Tyrants". A compare and contrast of things that were and weren't turned to stone by the humility spell. Griffinwyrm7 10:30, 8 October 2009 (CDT)

• Gargoyle Beasts could do with an updated picture (collage?) of the new beasts seen in the comics: Fu-Dog, Chomp, and Chaw. -- Litwolf 25 August 2009

• Sruighlea Cell doesn't have a picture yet. -- Litwolf 27 August 2009

• Lunette and possibly Old Pog could use updated pics that show them in their not stone forms. -- Matt 08:34, 9 October 2009 (CDT)

The next to last page of issue #9 has a decent pic of Lunette, but if we want anything better of her or a non-stone pic for Old Pog, we're going to have to rely on someone donating a model sheet or drawing not used in the comic. -- Demonskrye 09:54, 10 October 2009 (CDT)

• Young Bodhe from Clan-Building Vol 2. -- Supermorff 16:34, 25 December 2009 (CST)

Just giving another nod for a Young Bodhe too ... there is one with the Grim on that page, but I didn't really want to simply copy and paste it over, knowing he was featured on more than one page in Clan Building --Pheon 22:27, 10 December 2010 (CST)

• Young Dingo from "Strangled". And the younger Falstaff (John Oldcastle), come to that. -- Supermorff

I have pictures of young Harry, John Oldcastle, and Bodhe that I've uploaded, along with Lunette. Sorry about the speech bubbles, though. --Lonerider26

• This is an unusual one, does anybody have any better pics of "Gargoyle" from W.I.T.C.H.? The one I have isn't that great. Ideally I'd like one from season 2 where he got that new lava hand from Nerissa. --Algernon 16:55, 13 August 2010 (CDT)

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Kudos

GargWiki:Special Thanks contains a list of influential people that helped create GargWiki in its current form. Editors can also recognize the efforts of regular users of GargWiki by listing them here:

• Kudos to VA for rewriting the first sentences of tons of articles for better uniformity of format! (Feel free to use this section for kudos to other editors too.) -- Demonskrye 20 September 2007

  Oh, thank you! :) -- Vaevictis Asmadi 13:09, 20 September 2007 (CDT)

• Kudos to User:Supermorff for his hard work creating and implementing the CIT text and banner templates. -- Vaevictis Asmadi 21:22, 26 September 2007 (CDT)

  Thanks very much! -- Supermorff 03:53, 27 September 2007 (CDT)

• A big well done to User:Matt, and also User:Greg Bishansky, for adding Appearances sections to every canon character article. -- Supermorff 14:45, 31 December 2007 (CST)

  Thanks! I can't believe it took less than a day. Thanks everyone who helped put it together, offered suggestions, corrected errors and reminded me of things I'd forgotten. Wait'll you guys hear my next big idea! -- Matt 14:48, 31 December 2007 (CST)

• Massive kudos to D Taina for image contributions past, present, and future. -- Demonskrye 14:25, 15 May 2008 (CDT)

  Thank you!!  :D I try! -- D Taina 00:50, 20 May 2008 (CDT)

• Massive kudos to EVERYONE! We now have 900 articles. Think we can make it to 1,000? --GregX 00:55, 12 January 2009 (CST)

• Massive kudos to everyone yet again for producing 1000 quality articles! Particular thanks to User:Greg Bishansky for seeing us through the final push, and for creating article #1000: Gargoyles Universe! -- Supermorff 09:49, 12 May 2010 (CDT)