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[[Image:YoungJustice.JPG|thumb|320px|From left to right: Artemis, Robin Kid Flash, Superboy, Miss Martian, & Aqualad.
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<blockquote>''"So here's to the immortals – there aren't many like us . . ." - [[Macbeth|Macbeth mac Findleach]] to [[King Arthur Pendragon|Arthur Pendragon]]'', ([[Rock and Roll|"Rock & Roll"]])</blockquote>
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'''Immortality''' in the [[Gargoyles Universe|''Gargoyles'' Universe]] is subject to one's interpretation of the concept, but immortals are generally understood as living beings that do not die. In the many examples to follow, there is certainly a distinction between those living beings that are essentially immune from age and other ailments and those that are considered only (but remarkably) long-lived. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=4130] There are a myriad of ways for someone to become immortal including (but not limited to) biology, [[Magic|enchantment]]s, resurrection, reincarnation, and literature. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3437][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=271]
  
'''''Young Justice''''' was an animated series based on DC comics’ various “sidekick” heroes.  The series followed the adventures of Robin, Aqualad, Kid Flash, Superboy, Miss Martian and Artemis, all of whom have been recruited by Batman to act as the Justice League’s covert-ops team.  The series was developed and produced by Brandon Vietti and [[Greg Weisman]].
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===Dragons===
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[[Wyvern (Dragon)|Wyvern]] is incredibly long-lived, but it remains unclear what is the exact nature behind the only known [[dragon|dragon's]] longevity. ''([[The Dream|"The Dream"]], [[Acquisitions|"Acquisitions"]])''
  
The series was not an exclusive adaptation of the DC comic title of the same name but rather draws from all across over seventy years of DC canon, particularly the original Teen Titans, the Justice League of America as well as the original Young Justice comic series. The series was renewed for a third season in 2016. [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1221]
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===Gargoyles===
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[[Demona]] is the only known immortal [[gargoyle]] that is immune from growing old or succumbing to injury (with one exception). Thanks to the [[Demona and Macbeth's Link|pact]] she made with the [[human]] Macbeth in [[Timeline#995-1993|1040]], Demona can only die at the hands of Macbeth, or from killing him herself. {{CIT|Any and all other means of conventionally killing a gargoyle simply have not happened in Demona's extended lifespan.}} [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=1967] When Demona summoned [[Puck]], she wished to no longer turn to [[Stone Sleep|stone]] during the day, hoping to eliminate the most obvious way {{CIT|for Macbeth}} to attack her. ''([[The Mirror|"The Mirror"]], [[City of Stone Part Three|"City of Stone" Part Three]])'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=20787]
  
Three non-canonical crossovers with ''[[Gargoyles (TV series)|Gargoyles]]'' and ''[[The Spectacular Spider-Man]]'' were performed as Radio Plays at CONvergence in 2014, 2016, and 2018. For more information, see [[Recruits|"Recruits"]], [[The Cosmos|"The Cosmos"]], and [[Musicology 101: Songs of the Theme|"Musicology 101: Songs of the Theme"]].
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[[Coldstone]], [[Coldfire]], and [[Coldsteel]], after their souls were resurrected by Demona {{CIT|have effectively acheieved immortality, but they}} are still subject to wear and tear. ''([[Reawakening|"Reawakening"]], [[Miracle Child|"Miracle Child"]])'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=277][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=349]
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==Cast Members==
 
The following ''Gargoyles'' cast members appeared in ''Young Justice''. They are listed in alphabetical order.
 
  
* [[Thom Adcox]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Klarion Klarion the Witch Boy]
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The founding members of the [[Manhattan Clan]] ([[Goliath]], [[Hudson]], [[Brooklyn]], [[Broadway]], [[Lexington]], and [[Bronx]]) as well as the entire [[Avalon Clan]] are certainly long-lived gargoyles, due to the [[Magus|Magus's]] [[Sleep Spell]] and how time moves more slowly on the isle of [[Avalon]], but none are considered immortal. ''([[Awakening Part Two|"Awakening: Part Two"]], [[Avalon Part One|"Avalon" Part One]])''
* [[Ed Asner]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Kent_Nelson Kent Nelson]
 
* [[Jeff Bennett]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Tornado Red Tornado], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/T.O._Morrow_(android) T.O. Morrow], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Abra_Kadabra Abra Kadabra], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Alfred_Pennyworth Alfred Pennyworth], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Vulko Vulko], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Torpedo Red Torpedo], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Volcano Red Volcano], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Wade_Eiling Wade Eiling], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Jason_Bard Jason Bard], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Casey_Klebba Casey Klebba]
 
* [[Clancy Brown]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/King_Faraday King Faraday]
 
* [[Keith David]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Mongul Mongul]
 
* [[Lacey Chabert]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Zatanna Zatanna]
 
* [[Tim Curry]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/G._Gordon_Godfrey G. Gordon Godfrey]
 
* [[Bill Fagerbakke]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Bear Bear]
 
* [[Michael Horse]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Holling_Longshadow Holling Longshadow]
 
* [[Gregg Rainwater]]  - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Tye_Longshadow Tye Longshadow]
 
* [[W. Morgan Sheppard]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Sardath Sardath]
 
* [[Marina Sirtis]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Queen_Bee Queen Bee], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Sandra_Stanyon Sandra Stanyon/Mrs. Wheeler]
 
* [[Kath Soucie]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Mera Queen Mera], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Lori_Lemaris Lori Lemaris], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Joan_Garrick Joan Garrick], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Artur Artur]
 
* [[Brent Spiner]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Joker Joker]
 
* [[Cree Summer]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Madame_Xanadu Madame Xanadu], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Aquagirl Tula], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Mary_West Mary West], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Mattie_Harcourt Mattie Harcount]
 
* [[Greg Weisman]] - [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Lucas_Carr Lucas Carr], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Ultra-Humanite Ultra-Humanite]
 
  
Both ''Gargoyles'' and ''Young Justice'' were voice directed by [[Jamie Thomason]].
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===Humans===
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[[Rory Dugan]] in [[Timeline#1996|1996]] is the reincarnated [[Cu Chullain]] from the turn of the 1st Century. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=6245] {{CIT|[[Peredur fab Ragnal]], [[Duval]], and [[Fleur]] have achieved immortality thanks to use of the [[Holy Grail]], living from the 6th Century until the present day.}} [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=137][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=56][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=843][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2237] [[Shahrizad]] describes her survival dependent on never finishing her tale, and has maintained her immortality for at least ten centuries. [https://spidey-dude.com/voices-from-the-eyrie-47-monsters/][https://spidey-dude.com/voices-from-the-eyrie-48-golem/] Thanks to the [[Weird Sisters]], Macbeth is eternally bound to Demona, and will remain so until one kills the other{{CIT|, surviving into the 22nd Century}}. {{CIT|It is possible that [[Alexander Fox Xanatos]] is an immortal, thanks to his mixed heritage through his mother, [[Fox]].}} ''("City of Stone" Part Three, [[The Hound of Ulster|"The Hound of Ulster"]], [[Quo Vadis Cum Hoc?|"Quo Vadis Cum Hoc?"]])'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=490][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=620][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2954][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=8537]
  
It is worth noting that actress and long time fan, Zehra Fazal, the model and inspiration for [[Shahrizad]], is voicing [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Halo Halo], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Cassandra_Savage Cassandra Savage], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Harper_Row Harper Row], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Hawkwoman Hawkwoman], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Lian_Nguyen-Harper Lian Nguyen-Harper], [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Wendy_Jones Wendy Jones], and [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Antonia_Rodriguez Antonia "Big Words" Rodriguex].
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{{CIT|Deluge survivor Utnapishtim is probably the oldest known human immortal, though the nature of his longevity has yet to be revealed.}} [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=4830] Arthur Pendragon was mortally wounded at the [[Battle of Camlann]] in [[Timeline#Before_971|542 AD]], but was ferried off {{CIT|by [[The Three]]}} to Avalon, where he slept {{CIT|in suspended animation}} until awakened by [[Elisa Maza]] in [[Timeline#1995|1995]]. {{CIT|As a [[changeling]], [[Nimue]] is also long-lived, but other than being raised by the [[Children of Oberon|Third Race]], the details to her longevity have yet to be revealed.}} [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=843][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=1226][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=1352] While Macbeth considers Arthur an immortal after the Once and Future King shared the particulars of his continued survival in 1996, Arthur Pendragon is not immune to age or harm as Macbeth (largely) is. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=11572] Thanks to how time passes on Avalon, [[Princess Katharine]], [[Guardian]], and the Magus have been alive for ten centuries, but nevertheless age and suffer injury as any human does. Indeed, the Magus eventually died from his battle with the Weird Sisters at the end of 1995. ''("Avalon" Part One, [[Avalon Part Three|"Avalon" Part Three]], "Rock & Roll")''
  
==Comic book tie in==
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It is [[David Xanatos|David Xanatos's]] desire to become immortal (and to extend that to his family), which has led to several schemes that have been unsuccessful, such as the [[Stone By Night Spell]] (having believed Demona's lie that she used a spell from the ''[[Grimorum Arcanorum]]'' to survive for centuries), the [[Cauldron of Life]] (the particulars proved far too literal), and abducting the [[Trickster]] [[Coyote (Child of Oberon)|Coyote]] (another non-starter). ''([[City of Stone Part One|"City of Stone" Part One]], [[The Price|"The Price"]], [[Cloud Fathers (episode)|"Cloud Fathers"]])'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=24218]
In January 2011, the first issue of a monthly spin-off comic, in continuity to the series, was released.  #0 was written by Greg Weisman and Kevin Hopps.  #1-6 was written by Art Baltazar & Franco Aureliani. The art for #1-4 was provided by Mike Norton.  Art, Franco and Mike also produced a ''Young Justice'' story for ''Young Justice/Batman: The Brave and The Bold Super Sampler'' which was released for Free Comic Book Day of May 07, 2011.
 
  
[[Christopher Jones]] did the art for #5 and became the book's regular artist from then on. [http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=1062]
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===Oberon's Children===
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Compared to the generally understood mortality of gargoyles and humans, the Third Race are believed to be immortals in the sense they are immune from ever growing old. {{CIT|Indeed, the very notion of the Children "aging" is an oxymoron.}} [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3272] {{CIT|Nevertheless, it is possible for the Third Race to be killed, though such a feat would be an incredible difficult feat.}} [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3040][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3135][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=463] {{CIT|Generally, Oberon's Children may not even fully comprehend death}} (perhaps [[Anubis]] and [[Titania]] are exceptions){{CIT|.}} ''([[Grief|"Grief"]], [[Ill Met By Moonlight|"Ill Met By Moonlight"]], [[The Gathering Part Two|"The Gathering" Part Two]], [[Young At Heart|"Young At Heart"]])'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=3302]
  
Greg Weisman and Kevin Hopps returned to writing for the comic full time as of #7, while having advised Art, Franco and Mike in terms of keeping #1-6 consistent with the continuity. [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=873]
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Although he is truly Puck, his role as [[Owen Burnett]] is that of a mortal human, and subject to age and injury. {{CIT|But Puck might forget to consider the age Owen needs to be whenever he transforms, effectively "reseting" Owen's age every time, at least until [[Timeline#2198_And_Beyond|2198]].}} ''("The Price")'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=620][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2979][https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=149]
===Collected Material===
 
*Young Justice: Volume 1 (Reprints #0-6), January 11, 2012 [http://www.toonzone.net/comics/solicitations/2011-12/dc/dc-kids/]
 
*Young Justice: Volume 2 - Training Days (Reprints #7-13), November 14, 2012 [http://www.toonzone.net/comics/solicitations/2012-10/dc/dc-kids/]
 
*Young Justice: Volume 3 - Creature Feature (Reprints #14-19), February 13, 2013 [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1012][http://www.toonzone.net/comics/solicitations/2013-01/dc/dc-comics/] 
 
*Young Justice: Volume 4 - Invasion (Reprints #20-25), December 11, 2013 [http://www.toonzone.net/comics/solicitations/2013-11/dc/dc-comics/]
 
*Young Justice: Book 1 - The Early Missions, October 02, 2019 (collecting Volumes 1 and 2 and the 2011 Free Comic Book Day story, "Face Your Fears") [https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/JUL190668]
 
*Young Justice: Book 2 - Growing Up, May 18, 2021 (collecting Volumes 3 and 4 and the 2019 two-parter "Torch Songs" originally released digitally on DCUniverse) [https://twitter.com/worldsfinest/status/1289227175460089862][https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/669439/young-justice-book-2-growing-up-by-greg-weisman/9781779509246/][https://twitter.com/ChrisJonesArt/status/1376000229577687040]
 
*Young Justice: Targets, July 18, 2023 (Reprints #1-#6 of ''Young Justice: Targets'')
 
  
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===New Olympians===
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No specific [[New Olympian]]s are known to be immortal. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=2024]
  
==References to ''Gargoyles'' in ''Young Justice''==
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===Extraterrestrials===
[[Image:YJEdmund.PNG|thumb|320px|Snapper Carr on Halloween as... Edmund Tsabard?!]]
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[[Nokkar]] {{CIT|of the [[N'Kai]]}} is certainly long-lived compared to each of the [[Earth|Earthlings]] mentioned above{{CIT|, but is not immortal}}. ''([[Sentinel (episode)|"Sentinel"]])'' [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=5065]
[[Image:HealedButNotWhole.PNG|thumb|320px|Goliath and Ra's al Ghul are healed but not whole.]]
 
[[Image:QueenBeeMarieLogan.PNG|thumb|320px|Queen Bee strokes Marie Logan's hair and brow.]]
 
* In [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Revelation "Revelation"], Wotan shouts "[[Lightning Spell|fulminos venite!]]" before firing a bolt of lightning. This was a favorite [[Magic|incantation]] of the [[Archmage]] as well as Mysterio's in ''The Spectacular Spider-Man''.
 
* Also in the episode "Revelation", when The Team is listing what Kobra-Venom has done, Superboy adds "And upgrade Wolf", referring to his pet in the context of the show, but may possibly be a reference to [[Wolf]] and what happens to him in the episode [[Upgrade|"Upgrade"]].
 
* In [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Humanity "Humanity"], Red Tornado says that he is not sure if the Team's words are accurate, but they may be true. This is reminiscent of [[King Arthur Pendragon|King Arthur Pendragon's]] line "all things are true... few things are accurate" in [[Rock and Roll|"Rock & Roll"]].
 
* One of Zatanna's spells ("Erif nrub, nordluac elbbub") translates into "Fire burn, cauldron bubble", which is a quote from [[William Shakespeare|William Shakespeare's]] ''[[Macbeth (play)|Macbeth]]'' (Act Four, Scene One). This line was also used in the recreated scene of the play in the episode [[City of Stone Part Three|"City of Stone" Part Three]].
 
* In [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Misplaced "Misplaced"], Klarion says "team work is so overrated." [[Thailog]] said the same thing in [[Sanctuary|"Sanctuary"]].
 
* In issue #2 of the tie-in comic, [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Monkey_Business_(Issue_2) "Monkey Business"], when Superboy breaks free from the illusion, he shouts, "None of this is real". This mirrors [[Goliath|Goliath's]] scream "None of you are real" when he breaks free from his hallucinations in [[Shadows of the Past|"Shadows of the Past"]].
 
* In issue #15, [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/...Here_There_be_Monsters "...Here There be Monsters"], when Miss Martian tries to take Ocean-Master's trident with telekinesis, he asks "What sorcery is this?". This line was spoken four times on ''Gargoyles'':
 
** Goliath said it when he saw his clan in [[Stone Sleep|stone sleep]] at night, in [[Awakening Part Two|"Awakening: Part Two"]];
 
** [[Coldstone]] uttered it when a laser blaster popped out of his forearm, in [[Reawakening|"Reawakening"]];
 
** [[Kai]] asked it, bewildered, when he and the other gargoyles found themselves in the [[Gargoyle Theme Park|theme park]] upon awakening, in [[Bushido (episode)|"Bushido"]];
 
** Goliath said it to Demona after she had prepared [[Operation Clean Slate]] in [[Hunter's Moon Part Three|"Hunter's Moon" Part Three]].
 
:This line is repeated by General Dru-Zod in the season four episode, [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Over_and_Out "Over and Out"], and accompanied by the Magus's retort "Sorcery indeed" by his son, Lor-Zod.
 
* In issue #18, (also) [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Monkey_Business_(Issue_18) "Monkey Business"], Dick, Wally, and Artemis are watching ''[[Celebrity Hockey]]''.
 
* In [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Satisfaction "Satisfaction"], Lex Luthor says "Vengeance is a sucker's game", very similar to a line uttered by [[David Xanatos]] in the episode [[Leader of the Pack|"Leader of the Pack"]]: "Revenge, as they say, is a sucker's game."
 
* In issue #25, [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Players,_Chapter_Six:_Rolling_Doubles Players, Chapter Six: "Rolling Doubles"], Queen Bee uses her ability to "control ''most'' men and ''some'' women" on Marie Logan, and in gargoyle custom, she strokes Marie's hair and brow rather than kiss her.
 
* Issue #25 concludes with the same caption used in [[Phoenix|"Phoenix"]]: "Never The End...".
 
* In the episode, [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare_Monkeys "Nightmare Monkeys"], Garfield Logan's TV series ''Space Trek 3016'' features an actor named Harvey portraying the Klamulon Commander. In [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Og_Htrof_Dna_Reuqnoc! "Og Htrof Dna Reuqnoc!"], Harvey was promoted to the starring role of Der’Chow. This is a reference to [[Harvey]] who portrayed an [[Evil Ninjas|Evil Ninja]] on ''[[The Pack]]''.
 
* In the episode, [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Nomed_Esir! "Nomed Esir!"], the ''[[Grimorum Arcanorum]]'', [[Eye of Odin]], and the [[Phoenix Gate]] turn up in [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Etrigan_the_Demon Jason Blood's] reliquary.
 
  
Greg Weisman also mentioned he wanted to incorporate the Archmage's "You beat up a beach!" line into ''Young Justice'' (another recurring reference on other shows he's worked on), but the opportunity never presented itself. [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=18096]
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==Production Background==
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In 1992, when ''[[Gargoyles (TV series)|Gargoyles]]'' was still in development, its shift to an action-adventure drama featured a proto-Goliath character that was not a member of the biological gargoyles species, but an immortal magical construct. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=325]
  
==References to ''Young Justice'' in ''Gargoyles''==
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[[Greg Weisman]] wrote in his ramble for "The Price" that there was a logical confusion for the Manhattan Clan when it came to understanding the nature of Demona and Macbeth's immortality. Like the rest of his clan, Hudson saw that his rookery daughter was clearly long-lived and was a known sorceror. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=299] Weisman explains, however, that "Hudson was thinking of immortality in the sense of living on without aging, ala the Norse Gods. Not in the sense that Mac was somehow immune to all injury and death ala the Greek Gods." [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=179] Until Goliath learned the details of Demona's and Macbeth's pact from the Weird Sisters, Hudson (and the others) would not know that they were immortals in the Greek sense (unless one kills the other). [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=1931] Even after learning the details about the two immortals, the Manhattan Clan can still forget the extent of their magical immunity, such as when Goliath was unsure of Demona's survival in [[The Reckoning|"The Reckoning"]]. [https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=470]
* In the issue, [[A Little Crazy|"A Little Crazy"]], Goliath inadvertently quotes the [[Caped Crusader]] when describing human criminals as "a superstitious and cowardly lot". M'comm M'orzz also described Green Martians in the same fashion in the season three episode [https://youngjustice.fandom.com/wiki/Away_Mission "Away Mission"] when explaining his rationale for assuming the appearance of Ma'alefa'ak to Miss Martian.
 
* In the issue, [[Acquisitions|"Acquisitions"]], [[Cleopatra's Necklace]] was [[Auctioneer|auctioned]] off to Buyer 16.
 
  
==See Also==
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[[Category:Canon]]
[[Image:FlamingC.JPG|thumb|320px|The Flaming C. Sure he's canon, he's just always standing right off camera.]]
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[[Category:Immortals|*]]
* {{wikipedia|Young_Justice_(TV_series)|Young Justice (TV series)}}
 
* '''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1641384/ Young Justice]''' at the Internet Movie Database
 
* '''[http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Young_Justice_Wiki Young Justice Wiki]''' at Wikia
 
 
 
===Episode Credits===
 
{| style="width:40%"
 
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'''Season One'''
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=876 "Independence Day" Pilot Movie]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=877 "Independence Day"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=880 "Fireworks"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=882 "Welcome to Happy Harbor"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=883 "Drop-Zone"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=884 "Schooled"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=885 "Infiltrator"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=886 "Denial"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=888 "Downtime"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=890 "Bereft"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=905 "Targets"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=907 "Terrors"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=908 "Homefront"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=910 "Alpha Male"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=911 "Revelation"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=912 "Humanity"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=914 "Failsafe"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=915 "Disordered"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=916 "Secrets"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=928 "Misplaced"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=930 "Coldhearted"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=933 "Image"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=935 "Agendas"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=938 "Insecurity"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=940 "Performance"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=942 "Usual Suspects"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=948 "Auld Acquaintance"]
 
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'''Season Two'''
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=950 "Happy New Year"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=954 "Earthlings"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=955 "Alienated"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=957 "Salvage"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=962 "Beneath"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=963 "Bloodlines"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=965 "Depths"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=977 "Satisfaction"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=978 "Darkest"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1002 "Before the Dawn"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1004 "Cornered"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1005 "True Colors"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1006 "The Fix"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1007 "Runaways"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1009 "War"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1015 "Complications"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1018 "The Hunt"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1021 "Intervention"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1027 "Summit"]
 
* [http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=1033 "Endgame"]
 
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Revision as of 05:11, 21 September 2025

"So here's to the immortals – there aren't many like us . . ." - Macbeth mac Findleach to Arthur Pendragon, ("Rock & Roll")

Immortality in the Gargoyles Universe is subject to one's interpretation of the concept, but immortals are generally understood as living beings that do not die. In the many examples to follow, there is certainly a distinction between those living beings that are essentially immune from age and other ailments and those that are considered only (but remarkably) long-lived. [1] There are a myriad of ways for someone to become immortal including (but not limited to) biology, enchantments, resurrection, reincarnation, and literature. [2][3]

Dragons

Wyvern is incredibly long-lived, but it remains unclear what is the exact nature behind the only known dragon's longevity. ("The Dream", "Acquisitions")

Gargoyles

Demona is the only known immortal gargoyle that is immune from growing old or succumbing to injury (with one exception). Thanks to the pact she made with the human Macbeth in 1040, Demona can only die at the hands of Macbeth, or from killing him herself. Any and all other means of conventionally killing a gargoyle simply have not happened in Demona's extended lifespan. [4] When Demona summoned Puck, she wished to no longer turn to stone during the day, hoping to eliminate the most obvious way for Macbeth to attack her. ("The Mirror", "City of Stone" Part Three) [5]

Coldstone, Coldfire, and Coldsteel, after their souls were resurrected by Demona have effectively acheieved immortality, but they are still subject to wear and tear. ("Reawakening", "Miracle Child") [6][7]

The founding members of the Manhattan Clan (Goliath, Hudson, Brooklyn, Broadway, Lexington, and Bronx) as well as the entire Avalon Clan are certainly long-lived gargoyles, due to the Magus's Sleep Spell and how time moves more slowly on the isle of Avalon, but none are considered immortal. ("Awakening: Part Two", "Avalon" Part One)

Humans

Rory Dugan in 1996 is the reincarnated Cu Chullain from the turn of the 1st Century. [8] Peredur fab Ragnal, Duval, and Fleur have achieved immortality thanks to use of the Holy Grail, living from the 6th Century until the present day. [9][10][11][12] Shahrizad describes her survival dependent on never finishing her tale, and has maintained her immortality for at least ten centuries. [13][14] Thanks to the Weird Sisters, Macbeth is eternally bound to Demona, and will remain so until one kills the other, surviving into the 22nd Century. It is possible that Alexander Fox Xanatos is an immortal, thanks to his mixed heritage through his mother, Fox. ("City of Stone" Part Three, "The Hound of Ulster", "Quo Vadis Cum Hoc?") [15][16][17][18]

Deluge survivor Utnapishtim is probably the oldest known human immortal, though the nature of his longevity has yet to be revealed. [19] Arthur Pendragon was mortally wounded at the Battle of Camlann in 542 AD, but was ferried off by The Three to Avalon, where he slept in suspended animation until awakened by Elisa Maza in 1995. As a changeling, Nimue is also long-lived, but other than being raised by the Third Race, the details to her longevity have yet to be revealed. [20][21][22] While Macbeth considers Arthur an immortal after the Once and Future King shared the particulars of his continued survival in 1996, Arthur Pendragon is not immune to age or harm as Macbeth (largely) is. [23] Thanks to how time passes on Avalon, Princess Katharine, Guardian, and the Magus have been alive for ten centuries, but nevertheless age and suffer injury as any human does. Indeed, the Magus eventually died from his battle with the Weird Sisters at the end of 1995. ("Avalon" Part One, "Avalon" Part Three, "Rock & Roll")

It is David Xanatos's desire to become immortal (and to extend that to his family), which has led to several schemes that have been unsuccessful, such as the Stone By Night Spell (having believed Demona's lie that she used a spell from the Grimorum Arcanorum to survive for centuries), the Cauldron of Life (the particulars proved far too literal), and abducting the Trickster Coyote (another non-starter). ("City of Stone" Part One, "The Price", "Cloud Fathers") [24]

Oberon's Children

Compared to the generally understood mortality of gargoyles and humans, the Third Race are believed to be immortals in the sense they are immune from ever growing old. Indeed, the very notion of the Children "aging" is an oxymoron. [25] Nevertheless, it is possible for the Third Race to be killed, though such a feat would be an incredible difficult feat. [26][27][28] Generally, Oberon's Children may not even fully comprehend death (perhaps Anubis and Titania are exceptions). ("Grief", "Ill Met By Moonlight", "The Gathering" Part Two, "Young At Heart") [29]

Although he is truly Puck, his role as Owen Burnett is that of a mortal human, and subject to age and injury. But Puck might forget to consider the age Owen needs to be whenever he transforms, effectively "reseting" Owen's age every time, at least until 2198. ("The Price") [30][31][32]

New Olympians

No specific New Olympians are known to be immortal. [33]

Extraterrestrials

Nokkar of the N'Kai is certainly long-lived compared to each of the Earthlings mentioned above, but is not immortal. ("Sentinel") [34]

Production Background

In 1992, when Gargoyles was still in development, its shift to an action-adventure drama featured a proto-Goliath character that was not a member of the biological gargoyles species, but an immortal magical construct. [35]

Greg Weisman wrote in his ramble for "The Price" that there was a logical confusion for the Manhattan Clan when it came to understanding the nature of Demona and Macbeth's immortality. Like the rest of his clan, Hudson saw that his rookery daughter was clearly long-lived and was a known sorceror. [36] Weisman explains, however, that "Hudson was thinking of immortality in the sense of living on without aging, ala the Norse Gods. Not in the sense that Mac was somehow immune to all injury and death ala the Greek Gods." [37] Until Goliath learned the details of Demona's and Macbeth's pact from the Weird Sisters, Hudson (and the others) would not know that they were immortals in the Greek sense (unless one kills the other). [38] Even after learning the details about the two immortals, the Manhattan Clan can still forget the extent of their magical immunity, such as when Goliath was unsure of Demona's survival in "The Reckoning". [39]